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raw milk debate 
  pinkskittles_69
 
06:26pm 08/12/2006
  i know that this group has a vegan emphasis, but since i know of raw foodies who like incorporating animal products into their diet, i thought this would be of interest.

raw foodies know why raw food is beneficial for your health--live enzymes help with digestion and give "life" to food, rather than wear you down after eating them.

anyways, the same can be said for unpasteurized milk. the prime concern is that raw milk can harbour pathogenic bacteria like e-coli and salmonella. yes, this is true, but a lot can be said for the animals who are even infected with this in the first place: horrible living conditions, anti-biotics, hormones, inadequate or inappropriate diet (like grains like corn and soy for animals like cows whom in nature would only consume grass, naturally). as you know, these are not proper living conditions for cows, and as some may know, the scary forms of e-coli and salmonella that exist today are mutated superbacteria types that have evolved to survive against antibiotics, ie: antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. THESE bacteria are the problem, but if we have an organic animal that hasn't been treated with antibiotics and lives the way nature intended, there's no reason why this animal should become infected, as healthy animals should have no contact with this crazy strain of bacteria.

anyway, raw milk can be said to have lots of benefits, like eating raw vegetables instead of cooked. also, through pasteurization, not only are live enzymes that are helpful to digestion and health are broken down and destroyed, but so is the lactose, which makes it much more easily absorbed by the body. pasteurized dairy products are one argument as to why people have diabetes. i agree, because i know how i feel when i eat dairy.

anyway, here is an article about how an ontario farmer is being charged for supplying raw milk to people. i don't think the law should come in between people and their rights to have access to whatever they want to feed themselves with. people have been consuming milk products long before louis pasteur came along. pasteurization was invented so that farmers can cut corners and have unhealthy livestock, thus allowing cows to get sick, then giving them bacteria, which causes these crazy strains of pathogenic bacteria.
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even if you are vegan, i think that it's worth a look into rights. especially since dairy farms are here to stay, i think it's better to support ones that are more fair to animals, health, environment and people. raw milk is milk in its natural form, and there's no reason why anyone should consume anything pasteurized that can't be safely eaten raw. people back in the hay day didn't pasteurize milk, and mothers don't pasteurize breast milk. if healthy women nurse then they can't pass off any infection to their child. same goes for cows. it's unnatural and takes away from it and renders it more dangerous to health. it's an interesting perspective, and even as a vegan i supported raw milk from healthy grass-fed cows above other dairy products.
 
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Soaking and sprouting 
  pinkskittles_69
 
08:31pm 31/05/2006
 
mood: nauseated
Hello. I am vegan and I'm trying to make the transition to raw food. This is hard for me, especially since I've been having horrible luck soaking. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Soaked beans and rice just kind of make me feel a little nauseous; maybe I'm doing it wrong or at the wrong temperatures. My apartment is quite hot, which may cause a problem. Is it normal for me to feel like barfing after eating soaked rice, beans, etc.?

I looked up a good type of rice to soak and sprout and I found that wehani rice is recommended. I don't know what that's like cooked, but raw it's kind of hard--although not as hard as soaked brown rice--and it's got a "unique" flavour. Now, is this unique flavour actually the flavour or is it rotting and whatnot while I'm soaking it?

I also tried to make hummus with raw chickpeas, soaked, and I think it was a disaster. It makes me nauseous as well. Is it possible to make raw hummus? What about my sprouting and soaking... am I doing it wrong? I basically just put it in water and leave it out over night, drain it, rinse, and do it again. They never seem to get as soft as cooked ones, but I'm guessing that's to be expected... but they taste more "earthy" than cooked ones too... Not as good.

Basically my questions are:
1. How do you sprout and soak... Step by step. Please don't direct me to the internet, I've looked, I've done what it says, and these are the results.
2. Are raw beans and rice supposed to be harder and taste different than cooked?

I really appreciate your help. Thanks so much.
 
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  jadedfish
 
12:39pm 29/04/2006
  Hello - I'm glad more people are joining this community. =) I am still finding it difficult to give up my cooked foods. I dont know, the longest I was able give up cooked foods was for 1 month, and within that month I felt GREAT! However, I know that I am still "addicted" because once emotional things start to happen in my life, I like to turn to the cooked foods for comfort. Lately, I've been about 50% raw. I'm a poor college student who needed to move closer to school, so now I have almost no money to spend on raw and especially organic foods. Though, I am going to keep trying.

Does anyone have a juicer? I have the Omega Nutrition 8001 (or something like that). I know it can do all sorts of things, but lately it has just been sitting on my shelf collecting dust. I find that wheatgrass really helps me feel "clean" and I have used to it juice wheatgrass, but not lately. I should grow some wheatgrass!

What do you all find the most difficult thing about transitioning to raw foods? I find that after a while, I guess I don't feel entirely "full" and I get hungry though I eat a lot of raw fruits and vegatables. I guess some sites might suggest that I am "cleaning out" and that my body only craves this stuff because I am deficient in it. Heh, oh well. I'm going to keep trying!
 
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  misty_fawn
 
11:09pm 24/04/2006
  Hi! My name is Sarah. I've been struggling with Anorexia for 2 and 1/2 years but now I've had enough. I'm fasting to lose a last few pounds and start my raw journey. My 18th birthday is this Wednesday, and Thursday night I'm finishing my fast and having my first raw meal. I'd love to meet new people here who share my journey, and exchange information. Recently, I bought David Wolfe's Eating for Beauty, a book written by a pioneer in Raw Foods. If you'd like to talk to me, please leave a message! I'd love for any advice to help me prepare for my raw diet while I am fasting.

Thanks!
Sarah
 
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  its_an_opinion
 
12:05am 07/01/2006
  I just joined, and I have no idea how active this community is. I'm really interested in going raw and I got a whole bunch of recipes and bought a whole bunch of ingredients today. for those of you that have done it for a little while (even just a few days) do you feel better? i have a zillion questions but I don't really know where to start, so i'll just end this. im really excited!  
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Keeping it alive 
  jadedfish
 
03:59pm 27/08/2005
 
mood: lethargic
I should be better at maintaining communities! I'm glad some more people have joined in my absence. As this community was made to help in the transition to raw foods, I'm going to grip about a problem I have with the transition.

I can usually make it about 2 weeks before I start to feel like "I can't make it" on raw. I truly do at times have the thinking of an addict. I feel deprived though I know I am not. I'll eat when I'm not hungry and won't stop until I get my "cooked food fix." Then when I do, I will find myself binging on the most disgusting concoctions of food you could imagine. Those times make me feel terrible and when I feel terrible, I rarely ever want to try the healthy raw food diet again. I really feel I have an ADDICTION to food, where "a little will power" means nothing. It's not about will power for me I feel, I feel it is more just about feeling like I am depriving myself and that I "need" the cooked foods to ne "normal". They are really comfort foods for me. *sigh* It's a never ending battle. I do have that book, "12 Steps To Ending Your Cooked Food Addiction" by Victoria Boutenkou. I have tried but fallen off and backslid. Maybe it's something about support in that "moment" that I lack, if you know what I mean.

Anyway, there's my complaining post for the day! I'll be sure to post more so stay tuned! :p lol. Please contribute your stories too! Let's all share our struggles together and hopefully overcome them!! Much love!

Oh yeah, and has anyone ever noticed being really tired when they are making the transition? I read that this is a detox symptom of your body readjusting. Sometimes I want to sleep all day when I eat well, and that alone will make me want to eat high sugar foods just to stay awake! I understand I need to me patient with my body, but there are those times when I don't! *sigh* Oh well. I guess half the battle is just becoming aware that we have a problem. C'est la vie!
 
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  spifffo
 
08:43pm 05/06/2005
  Hey! My name is Emily, and I actually heard about raw food diets for the first time only yesterday, when I read a couple of articles about it in Energy Times (a health magazine that they give you for free at the health food store that I go to). So there's obviously still a lot that I need to learn, and I don't think I really have enough information to totally commit to anything yet. Still, I thought that this looked like a good place to hear about other people's experiences, and make some friends!

I also thought that I'd share this recipe. It's from the book Eating in the Raw by supermodel Carol Alt-- I found it in Energy Times. I haven't tried it yet, but it looks really good!

Mushroom QuicheCollapse )

will probably be x-posted
 
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Question 
  mezmera
 
11:41pm 28/05/2005
 
mood: scared
I've been raw-fooding it for over a week now. I FINALLY got the raw food book I ordered in the mail but was disappointed that the one thing I really wanted to know wasn't in the book.

How do I NOT gain weight on this? Is there anything I need to be careful of? Can I really have all the avocados, bananas, raw honey, raw nuts, raw corn, and dried dates I want? I'm REALLY struggling with my weight and a chronic disease (not life threatening) that prevents me from exercising. I do not want to gain any more weight!!!!

X-posted in "avocadofans"
 
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wholefoodfarmcy Concious Health Seminar 
  dianataylor2012
 
03:46pm 02/05/2005
  Date & Time: Tuesday, May 3 2005
7:00 PM
Location: The Living Temple
7561 Center Ave, #24
Huntington Beach, CA 92647 view map
More info. http://www.uhs.wholefoodfarmacy.com

Join us for a fun, FREE, informative evening. Learn about the sacred geometry and special properties of whole foods, and the secrets of optimal health. The foods you eat, the water you drink, the products you use, the lifestyle you live all effect your health! and the health of those around you,

The Great American Whole Food Farmacy uses only the finest raw whole food ingredients grown earth-friendly. All ingredients are free from chemicals, pesticides, fungicides and non-GMO. Meals, snacks, shakes, and personal care products are carfully and precisely designed to target specific organs and body systems based on ancient wisdom of each ingredients geometry (shape), color, and other factors. Each unique and powerful product will profoundly effect the function and performance of your body? Whole food samples will be available at events!

Additional Topics & Experiences: We will feature Profound information
regarding topics of creating a conscious community, Health Education, Spiritual Education, Sacred Geometry, Wholesale Pricing, Regional Support, Conscious Media, Financial Education and an Income Producing Referral Program. This is the companies Launch in the Southern California area and opportunities to participate in the expansion Are Available

We look forward to the equal exchange of loving energy...

Sincerely,

Diana Taylor,
Whole Food Farmacy Distributor
http://www.uhs.wholefoodfarmacy.com

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wholefoodfarmcy Concious Health Seminar 
  dianataylor2012
 
05:35pm 20/04/2005
  Date & Time: Tuesday, April 26 2005
7:00 PM
Location: The Living Temple
7561 Center Ave, #24
Huntington Beach, CA 92647 view map
More info. http://www.uhs.wholefoodfarmacy.com

Join us for a fun, FREE, informative evening. Learn about the sacred geometry and special properties of whole foods, and the secrets of optimal health. The foods you eat, the water you drink, the products you use, the lifestyle you live all effect your health! and the health of those around you,

The Great American Whole Food Farmacy uses only the finest raw whole food ingredients grown earth-friendly. All ingredients are free from chemicals, pesticides, fungicides and non-GMO. Meals, snacks, shakes, and personal care products are carfully and precisely designed to target specific organs and body systems based on ancient wisdom of each ingredients geometry (shape), color, and other factors. Each unique and powerful product will profoundly effect the function and performance of your body? Whole food samples will be available at events!

Additional Topics & Experiences: We will feature Profound information
regarding topics of creating a conscious community, Health Education, Spiritual Education, Sacred Geometry, Wholesale Pricing, Regional Support, Conscious Media, Financial Education and an Income Producing Referral Program. This is the companies Launch in the Southern California area and opportunities to participate in the expansion Are Available

We look forward to the equal exchange of loving energy...

Sincerely,

Diana Taylor,
Whole Food Farmacy Distributor
http://www.uhs.wholefoodfarmacy.com

Unity, Peace, Love, & Enlightenment Image hosted by Photobucket.com
 
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Hi! Thanks for posting! :) 
  jadedfish
 
05:35pm 03/03/2005
  Hi! You're not too late! I just stopped checking back as often as I should have. It's cool you are getting into the raw foods, me too! Of course, lol. I have had my times of being very close to 100% raw but the lack of support here sometimes allows me to devilishly falll into bad habits, lol. Thanks for joining my meager community! I hope that it will someday grow and we can all make a nice, healthy transition! :) How has your transition been going? BTW my name is Jen. :) Nice to meet you!  
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Hi! 
  guidy_goodness
 
08:10pm 20/02/2005
  Well, I hope I'm not too late. Looks like I'm the first to join/post in your comm.

Anyway, I'm new to the whole raw foods thing. I'm getting into it 'cause my folks are. They're living with me, so it's better if we all do it. Plus, I REALLY need to starting eating healthy.

I mean, I was for the most part before, but I ate a lot of prosessed foods and meats. Now, I'm looking to go strictly raw.

Again, I hope I'm not too late, and you get more people to join up and post.
 
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New Community 
  jadedfish
 
04:31pm 06/02/2005
 
mood: happy
Hi! I made this community for those of us who are addicted to cooked foods and who want to stop that addiction! I hope that many people can come together to offer support for one another! If you are looking for a penpal or support pal in your transition, please post here! If you just want to grip about how addicted you are to cooked foods, please post here too! Personally, I am trying to make the transition from a vegan diet to a living foods diet, but I am having the hardest time giving up my cooked vegan meals and confectionaries! I love soy ice cream! However, I lack much support here at home, where many of my friends aren't even vegan, and my family just asks for me not to get them involved, so I would like to form a community focused on support during the transition, or whatever your personal goal may be. So, please join and please post! I'll check back often! :) I am looking for a vegan buddy, maybe someone who is just making the transition or something. :)
 
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